I love this system. One challenge I've always had with Scrivener is the inability to use footnotes. How do you keep track of sources/historiography in this writing lab space so that when you are ready to move it to a word processor you have a trail you can follow?
Yes! So I actually like Scriveners footnote/comment system for writing but it doesn't do formatting or collecting citations. For that I use a citation manager like Zotero and I'm not very efficient. For example, I use Scrivener to add footnotes, viewing them in the right panel as I go, then I do any real formatting in Word, including checking citation punctuation etc. (You can do inline footnotes as well, but I prefer not to.) Using footnote placement in Scrivener means I keep on track with where notes go, but it also means I have to keep my massive citation lists elsewhere. BUT what I like about this is it forces me to have two separate processes--one for writing and one for research--so that when I'm writing I am doing one job (telling a story to people) and when I'm researching I'm doing the other job (being a student of the archive). Sometimes those two are the same job, but usually they aren't and we can forget that!
For citation management, I use Zotero for convenience or I use Bookends when I need to create an artisan footnote that Zotero doesn't offer (like a special citation format for manuscript documents). Bookends lets me make bibliographies, etc.
I really like this. I've loved scrivener in the past but I really struggled with the hand off from the writing process to the revising process but I like what you're suggesting here about keeping the processes somewhat separate so that scrivener can be a space of generating prose and then let the word processor be a space for revision and the archival work. Thank you!
I love this idea and am excited to try it out (love love scrivener). BUT I can't seem to access the PhinisheD Phorum (even after registering). Is there anyone here who can post a screenshot of Bombay's description?
Also - do y'all keep all of your secondary source notes in your scrivener as well?
I love this system. One challenge I've always had with Scrivener is the inability to use footnotes. How do you keep track of sources/historiography in this writing lab space so that when you are ready to move it to a word processor you have a trail you can follow?
Yes! So I actually like Scriveners footnote/comment system for writing but it doesn't do formatting or collecting citations. For that I use a citation manager like Zotero and I'm not very efficient. For example, I use Scrivener to add footnotes, viewing them in the right panel as I go, then I do any real formatting in Word, including checking citation punctuation etc. (You can do inline footnotes as well, but I prefer not to.) Using footnote placement in Scrivener means I keep on track with where notes go, but it also means I have to keep my massive citation lists elsewhere. BUT what I like about this is it forces me to have two separate processes--one for writing and one for research--so that when I'm writing I am doing one job (telling a story to people) and when I'm researching I'm doing the other job (being a student of the archive). Sometimes those two are the same job, but usually they aren't and we can forget that!
For citation management, I use Zotero for convenience or I use Bookends when I need to create an artisan footnote that Zotero doesn't offer (like a special citation format for manuscript documents). Bookends lets me make bibliographies, etc.
I really like this. I've loved scrivener in the past but I really struggled with the hand off from the writing process to the revising process but I like what you're suggesting here about keeping the processes somewhat separate so that scrivener can be a space of generating prose and then let the word processor be a space for revision and the archival work. Thank you!
I love this idea and am excited to try it out (love love scrivener). BUT I can't seem to access the PhinisheD Phorum (even after registering). Is there anyone here who can post a screenshot of Bombay's description?
Also - do y'all keep all of your secondary source notes in your scrivener as well?